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I am very excited for this adventure and look forward to taking it with you!

Thank you for reading and sharing your time with me,

Khriste


Thursday, January 14, 2021

By Rick Kunz 2

 et me begin by stating categorically:  I am not an apologist for Donald Trump.  But if this country has any chance of a course correction, we must first clearly understand what has happened.

My first point would be that the actions of Trump were not driven by malice but rather sheer ignorance.  Granted, that does not change the consequences of his actions.  But again, the disease must be correctly diagnosed to assure effective treatment.

Trump lacks the education and the intellect to comprehend the intricacies of our form of government, based on the precept of self-governance.  It’s success requires a delicate balance between the exercise of power, on the one hand, and patience necessary to persuade, on the other.

Nothing in Trump’s upbringing or life experience prepared him for this level of comprehension.  He simply transferred the practices he applied in running his little mom and pop business to the majesty of the greatest experiment in governing the world has ever seen.

For example.  I believe when Trump vetoed the coronavirus relief bill, he thought all that would be required to amend the bill would be to cross out $600 and pencil in $2000. 

Finally, Trump was voted into office, because too many people thought the way our government was run was just a bunch of mushy malarkey; that what was needed was a tough, no-nonsense businessman to take the helm and straighten out the other two branches; his appeal sustained by those similarly lacking the comprehension of the subtleties of our federal system with its crucial checks and balances and distribution of power over the broadest range possible.

We live in the midst of an electorate with no appreciation for the rigors of self-government and the obligations of citizenship.  January 6 was a hissy fit on an adult scale.  Its very existence demonstrates the pathetic ignorance at its heart.  It is easy to curse and castigate Trump.  While necessary, removing him from office does nothing to address the real problem facing this nation; it’s solution a far more difficult task.




Comparison of Wisconsin protests 2011 to 1/6/2021

“Remember in 2011 when tens of thousands of Democrats surged on the Wisconsin Capitol building in Madison and physically occupied it for more than two weeks? We were told, "This is what democracy looks like."” -

From what I have found in the below sources.  


1. “Beginning in February involving at its zenith as many as 100,000 protesters”  in Wisconsin is from February 14, 2011 – June 16, 2011 (9).  Estimated number for the crowd on 1/6/2021 is “several thousand people, even 10,000 maybe” (10). 


2. I was not familiar with this event prior to researching it but from what I have found:

people did sleep in the capitol, with permission, if that is what “occupied” meant (15) (14) (13) (2).   


3. “This is what democracy looks like” was the title of some pieces of work but I couldn't find someone being quoted saying that (11) (12).

    

My thoughts-

The amount of property damage is not even close to comparable (1-7).

Physical violence not even comparable (1-7).

There were threats made by protestors in Wisconsin (5)(6)(9) and they were held responsible- “10+ arrested (5).

The events of 1/6/2021 are still under investigation but as of the research I have done today- 68 people were arrested between Wednesday night and Thursday morning (16), 13 have been charged federally (7), 5 people are dead (7) and “many” injured.  Some of those dead and injured are police officers.  That is not even taking into account those who will become ill from this experience, COVID, PTSD, depression, anxiety, etc.

I did not find any evidence of weapons being brought to Wisconsin, though there were tractors.  We know that there were weapons of many kinds brought to the nation’s Capital.

And I feel it’s worth mentioning, they brought a gallo, a gallo.

Lastly, in Wisconsin they were able to stay in session and do their work (1).  In the Capitol, they were not (6).



(1)https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2021/01/08/wisconsin-act-10-protests-vs-capitol-riot-breach-4-key-differences-violence-arrests-deaths-damage/6584619002/


(2)https://www.nbc15.com/2021/01/07/us-congressman-says-wisconsin-act-10-protests-are-incomparable-to-capitol-hill-violence/


(3)https://www.npr.org/2011/02/17/133847336/wis-democratic-lawmakers-flee-to-prevent-vote


(4)https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-14-group-of-democratic-senators-returns-greeted-by-thousands-at-capitol/2011/03/12/ABB28IS_story.html


(5)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests#Law_enforcement_actions


(6)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests#Political


(7)https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirteen-charged-federal-court-following-riot-united-states-capitol


(8)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol


(9)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests


(10)https://news.yahoo.com/difficult-not-impossible-estimate-size-132937968.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADKZV9Rn77_cXrWXIsrD5fnfr2RNJXYAKqeomh78yXMFebCGj1g_V0bPpI6_4kmPra0PqNJyq_nfevZKZfWVDsXgsa50bTrgScXamjpdGgvukIBXygKRBWOxj-c6ZxIJ9-xPBbJQ2QHluAPpMykTcPb0VFMfMhZPxHlH-0MP44yX


(11)https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/51288657.pdf


(12)https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/savvy/footnotes/mar11/wisconsin_0311.html


(13)https://www.huffpost.com/entry/report-from-madison-wisco_b_828668


(14)https://beautifultrouble.org/case/wisconsin-capitol-occupation/


(15)https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/02/the-view-from-inside-the-wisconsin-state-capitol/71698/


(16)https://www.medpagetoday.com/washington-watch/electioncoverage/90559


(17)https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/capitol-attack-police-officer-five-deaths




A conversation leads to information sharing

One of the conversations I had over the last few days has brought about us sharing different info with each other. I was sent this--

Remember in 2011 when tens of thousands of Democrats surged on the Wisconsin Capitol building in Madison

and physically occupied it for more than two weeks? We were told, "This is what democracy looks like."

Remember in 2016 when Obama was President and hundreds of BLM blocked interstate highways and violently accosted police (even killing several)? We were told, "To assign the actions of one person to an entire movement is dangerous and irresponsible."  

Remember in 2018 during the Kavanaugh hearings when a mob of Democrats stormed the U.S. Supreme Court building in Washington, DC, and pounded their fists in rage on the door. We were told, "It's understandable." 

Remember this summer's riots in major cities across the country when groups of Democrats marched in the streets, set buildings on fire, looted businesses, assaulted and even killed bystanders and police?  We were told, "These are mostly peaceful protests." 

Remember when Democrats seized several blocks of the Capitol Hill neighborhood in downtown Seattle, declaring it an autonomous zone? Remember the guns ad deaths and utter destruction? We were told, "It's a block party atmosphere."

Remember when a crazed mob gathered after the Republican National Convention and attacked Rand Paul, a sitting U.S. Senator? We were told, "No justice, no peace." 

Remember how police were told to stand down, governors refused to call in the national guard, and Democrats paid bail for violent protesters who were arrested? We were told, "This is the only way oppressed people can be heard." 

I have condemned violent protests and lawlessness every single time they've been reported. I condemn the actions of those who stormed the Capitol yesterday. But I refuse to condemn hundreds of thousands of peaceful protestors because a handful (52 arrested) chose to be lawless and to defy everything the vast majority of the crowd stood for. Conservatives are defenders of the Constitution, the police, and the rule of law. Because a relative few people decided to do something stupid doesn't nullify the concerns of the many. 

The real culprit here? The mainstream media has been telling us for years that violence is the only way people who feel oppressed can be heard, it's the only way to get justice, and this is what democracy looks like. Apparently, a few who were in the crowd on Wednesday listened to them. 

The inflammatory rhetoric of the Left caused this, and it's about time Democrats and the mainstream media took responsibility for dividing Americans and attempting to humiliate those who support the President or any conservative ideals. They have pushed people to the brink, even while claiming, "It's time for unity." It's time for careful reflection and change on all sides. God help us.

--- I have been researching each section and will be sharing what I find. Please share any of your findings or thoughts too. :)



Wednesday, January 13, 2021

My question from 1/6/2021



 As I watched,

felt,

processed,

discussed,

watched,

answered questions,

felt some more, 

reassured, 

watched some more,

thought, 

I kept coming to "How is this patriotic?"


So I started having some more conversations.  I will share the different paths as we go down them.  And please share your thoughts in the comments or reach out to me.  Thank you!




1/6/2021

My 7 year old granddaughter "Is this good or bad?"

My 20 year old daughter as she is getting ready to go to the store "I think we should take the Biden/Harris sticker of the car.  It is putting a target on our back."  


Thursday, December 10, 2020

Make Time For Some Homework - A Message From Mike

Between helping out with Khriste’s blog and getting my info stream project going, I’m pretty exhausted already. Haha

I’m thinking the major lifting is mostly over by now and just minor speed bumps are left from here on out.

I’ve finally managed to get some of the video conference Tessa and I did with Khriste to upload. Due to MANY complications, it’ll be going up in 4 parts. 🤦‍♂️

It’s being uploaded as “unlisted” to protect the privacy of Khriste’s project until she wants it more visible. This means you will only be able to see it if you have the direct link, so she’ll have to share it with you when she’s ready.

As for my project, The Revelations Symposium, it seems to be rolling now as well. I’ve managed to create a web page for it and I’ll leave the link below where you can find out more about it if you’d like. There, you’ll find my own blog/information center where you can learn about topics I’ll be covering when I’m not broadcasting.

I’ll post links from my page here as often as I can, for ease of finding 

There’s an absurd amount of information to go through once you get going, so make room for some homework. Haha. Hit me up if you need help.

https://revelationssymposium.wixsite.com/revelationssymposium

Enjoy!

Be First. Be Smarter. Be Ahead.

Question Everything,

Mike

UPDATE:  As of 1/13/2021, I still have not been able to successfully share the video of our conversation.  I will continue to work on it and let you know when I have been successful.  :) 




Wednesday, December 2, 2020

Parties



I then wanted to look into why we had political parties to start with.  I found a history of political parties on the Library of Congress’s website.  https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/creating-the-united-states/formation-of-political-parties.html


In Definitions blog post, I define the 2 “major” parties, Democrat and Republican, with the Merriam-Webster dictionary.  The following were not in the dictionary.  I defined them through their websites (noted after each).  These are the ones I am aware of.  If you know of any others please share.  :)


The Reform Party started in early 1990’s defines themselves as -

“For over twenty years the Reform Party of the United States has been fighting for honest leadership and real solutions. As the leading moderate, centrist and populist political party, it represents the sixty percent of moderate voters ignored by the Democratic and Republican incumbents. Without backing from any special interest funds, or donations with strings attached, the all volunteer Reform Party is here to fight for you.

The Reform Party stands for ethics reform that create a transparent government beholden to the American People. It fights for the American economy and middle class by supporting common sense economic policies that bring jobs back to the United States, and rebuilds American’s manufacturing sector.

The Reform Party is the alternative to political gridlock in Washington. The party seeks to build a political infrastructure that can match the Democrats and Republicans in votes, donations and offices held without succumbing to the special interests and self serving behavior that has corrupted America’s government.”

https://reformparty.org/about-reform-party/

The Libertarian Party started in 1971 defines themselves as -


“The Libertarian Party (LP) is your representative in American politics. It is the only political organization which respects you as a unique and responsible individual.

Our slogan is that we are “The Party of Principle”, because we stand firmly on our principles.

Libertarians strongly oppose any government interference into their personal, family, and business decisions. Essentially, we believe all Americans should be free to live their lives and pursue their interests as they see fit as long as they do no harm to another.”

https://www.lp.org/about/


The Socialist Party of America was started in 1901.  I was not able to find a website for them by typing that name into the Google search bar.  The following is from the Socialst Party USA’s website.

 

“THE SOCIALIST PARTY  strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control -- a classless, feminist, socialist society free of racism, sexism,  homophobia or transphobia, in which people cooperate at work, at home,  and in the community.

 

Socialism is not mere government ownership, a welfare state, or a repressive bureaucracy. Socialism is a new social and economic order in which workers and consumers control production and community residents control their neighborhoods, homes, and schools.  The production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. Socialism produces a constantly renewed future by not plundering the resources of the earth.


Under both capitalist and authoritarian statist systems, people have  little control over fundamental areas of their lives. The capitalist  system forces workers to sell their abilities and skills to the few who  own the workplaces, profit from these workers' labor, and use the  government to maintain their privileged position, while further  impelling the drain of society’s productive wealth and goods into  military purposes, the despoliation of the environment and natural  resources, and perpetual war in which workers are compelled to fight  other workers. Under authoritarian statist regimes, decisions are made by ruling party officials, the bureaucracy and the military. The  inevitable product of each system is a highly stratified society with

gross inequality of resources, privileges, and substantive participation  in political life. 

     

People across the world need to cast off the systems which oppress  them, and build a new world fit for all humanity. Democratic  revolutions are needed to dissolve the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. By revolution we  mean a radical and fundamental change in the structure and quality  of economic, political, and personal relations. The building of  socialism requires widespread understanding and participation,  and will not be achieved by an elite working "on behalf of" the people.  The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against  the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major  force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future – to a real  radical democracy from below”

https://www.socialistpartyusa.net/principles-points-of-agreement


There was a website for the Democratic Socialists of America.  https://www.dsausa.org/


The Natural Law Party started in 1992 defined themselves as -


“The Natural Law Party is the fastest growing new political party in America. In the 2000 election, our Natural Law-Independent coalition candidates received over 1.4 million nationwide, with many candidates winning 10%–20% of the vote and several winning 20%–30%—the highest average percentages for Natural Law candidates in any election so far. In addition, millions of citizens signed petitions to put the Natural Law Party on the ballot in their states, demonstrating the extensive grassroots support for the Party’s proven solutions to the nation’s problems.”

https://www.natural-law.org/introduction/index.html


The Constitution Party started 1992.  They had websites for different states.  The following definition is from their National Platform PDF (linked) as was adopted 2012.  


“We declare the platform of the Constitution Party predicted on the principles of:  The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States and The Bill of Rights, according to the original intent of the Founding Fathers.  These founding documents are the foundation of our Liberty and the Supreme Law of the Land.  


The sole purpose of the government, as stated in the Declaration of Independence, is to secure our unalienable rights given us by our Creator.  When Government grows beyond this scope, it is usurpation and liberty is compromised.  


We believe the major issues we face today are best solved by a renewed allegiance to the original intent of these founding documents.”

https://www.constitutionparty.com/assets/National-Platform-Full-Version.pdf

   

The Green Party started in 2001 defines themselves as -


“Welcome to the Green Party of the United States (GPUS), an independent political party that is connected to American social movements, and is part of a global Green movement that shares key values, including our Four Pillars: Peace and Non-Violence, Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots Democracy, and Social Justice, and our Ten Key Values.”  The 10 key values are grassroots democracy, social justice and equal opportunity, ecological wisdom, non-violence, decentralization, community-based economics, feminism and gender equity, respect for diversity, personal and global responsibility, future focus and sustainability.”  

https://www.gp.org/about


The Tea Party started in 2009 define themselves as-


“The Tea Party are those who possess a strong belief in the Judeo-Christian values embedded in our great founding documents. We believe the responsibility of our beloved nation is etched upon the hearts of true Patriots from every race, religion, national origin, and walk of life sharing a common belief in the values which made and keep our beloved nation great. This belief led to the creation of the modern-day Tea Party.


Our millions of members consist of Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Independents who identify with the premises set forth by the U.S. Constitution and we are striking a chord and ringing true with the American Spirit.

We stand by the Constitution as inherently conservative.


We serve as a beacon to the masses who have lost their way, a light illuminating the path to the original intentions of our Founding Fathers.


We must have a choir of voices declaring America must stand on the values which made us great, only then will the politically blind see and deaf hear!


By joining the Tea Party, you are taking a stand for our nation. You will be upholding the grand principles set forth in the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.”

https://www.teaparty.org/about-us/


The Republican Party was started in 1854.  According to Wikipedia they “underwent a social ideological shift” in 1912.  I defined this term in the Definitions post.  Here is their website.  https://www.gop.com/


The Democratic Party was started in 1828.  I defined this term in the Definitions blog post.  Here is their website.  https://democrats.org/